Episode Transcription | Martin Guigui interview

 

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

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SPEAKERS

Martin Guigui, JD, The Ghost

 

Martin Guigui  00:00

Hey, you're listening to go in Hollywood. This is Martin giegi Let's rock it now.

 

The Ghost  00:06

Ah broadcasting from the not so secret underground layer here in weirdo Ville so put on your foil helmets accept the offer you can't refuse. Because you just entered our cinematic world of going to Hollywood.

 

JD  00:32

Tell me the other day you were talking and there's something you said that I just I have not been able to get out of my head since and it's really been fucking with me. I need you to tell everyone at home. What you put on your bagel.

 

The Ghost  00:46

What I put on my big I put fucking cream cheese on that bitch but I mentioned what you said. You fuckin this motherfucker. Let me tell you. I set up with mathnasium a bagel and everybody in the room. cluding my wife lost their fucking minds. I'm like, What do you hold on? Why are y'all all gang? atrocious? Well, listen, I didn't mean Manet's, like Manet's and put the shit together and eat the bagel just with a man he's on. And I'm putting like turkey or chicken meat on it and cheese and lettuce and shit.

 

JD  01:24

So you didn't say that? You said Manny's and you stop there and you're talking about a Mayo bagel and it's just been on my head. I don't care for it at all.

 

The Ghost  01:35

I felt like you guys. Don't wait, listen. No, I felt like common sense wise. You'd fucking know that I wouldn't eat a bagel with just Manet's on it man.

 

JD  01:46

Common sense would say but you know what? You do some weird shit sometimes. But that's thinking about better taste. I'm gonna say taste in music here. We actually have a very special guest. He is minimum triple threat. We're talking award winning filmmaker, music director, composer, Grammy nominated music producer. Please welcome Martin giegi Martin, welcome to the show.

 

02:09

Thanks for having me. And I got to tell you, man, there's nothing better than butter on a bagel and I will say this. You love bunny. neighs mayonnaise and pickles. Mayonnaise and pickles make me frickin gag. Like, I vomit. And even just the sight of it. It's like horrifying, horrifying to me to see a pickle on the table. And when I can I can smell mayonnaise a mile away and I start gagging

 

The Ghost  02:35

oh shit not about it. Lose your fucking mind in Germany man. We drown our man. We drown our shit. And man is in Europe, man.

 

02:42

Oh, yeah, no, that would not be good for me. But you know what I just to hang and to be there. I would like put up with it for a minute. You know, I would like wear like a clothesline on my nose or something.

 

The Ghost  02:57

Man is that bad? Jesus, man, you'd hate my house. I have like three kinds of man.

 

JD  03:04

I can't get over the pickle part man. That's the part that I lay. You don't like any pickles at all. You know, they

 

03:08

asked me the other day I was on an interview because of because of the movie right? paradise Cove, which is a thriller. It's a it's a psychological thriller with horror elements. And they said to me, You know what's, what are the things that really like scare you? And I said at the first thing that came to my mind was, you know, frickin pickles.

 

JD  03:26

Wow, yeah, go right to aliens or something like that. And you go with exorcism like that's what scares you.

 

03:34

There's something phallic about that. Go ahead, guys. You can talk about it. But I don't know when that first happened. Because I grew up in New York City. And my dad always used to take me to Canter's deli, which was like you walk in and the place reeks of pickles. And there's bins everywhere. And maybe that had a traumatic experience on because I can't I can't do pickles.

 

JD  03:55

Wow, man, I just can't I like I used to be like kind of so so about pickles. And then like my wife finally got me to like, try, like actually try pickles on a burger. And it was like, it changed my world a little bit. So like, that's just like, I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum. Like I love me some pickles.

 

04:12

You know, we may be onto something here. And I think we'll have to split it 5050 like we could probably start some sort of a branded franchise. Like I'm just thinking for starters, the first movie would be called pickles wars.

 

JD  04:24

It worked for tomatoes. It totally worked for tomato.

 

04:26

Yeah, yeah. And we didn't start our own kind of like you could start you guys could start your own movie, you know, rating system and you could call in the rotten pickles.

 

JD  04:39

And actually, write that down

 

04:42

right now. Right?

 

04:46

That's a gift man. I give you that. That's for you guys. We

 

JD  04:50

never we said that. We didn't receive any it'll always be remembered it started here. I love it. I absolutely love it.

 

04:57

Grab the URL and go nuts.

 

JD  05:00

Love it. Love it rotten pickles.com I'm gonna see if that's taken at some point, the

 

05:04

only thing I ever do the only part of this arrangement that I asked you guys is no matter how bad a movie I make in the future, it is always, you know, treat me right on Rotten pickles.

 

JD  05:15

Absolutely. Absolutely. We're getting nothing but you're getting a good deal from

 

05:22

fills up two deals.

 

JD  05:24

That's right. Two deals.

 

05:29

Great. Say that. Don't say that in a crowded bar.

 

05:31

Right.

 

JD  05:35

Tell us a little about yourself. I understand you were born in Buenos Aires. So that's pretty that's pretty cool. I know one of Sarah's from Starship Troopers. Right? Didn't didn't end well on that.

 

05:46

That's right. Right. We don't want to go there. But you know, I tell you this but as ours is a really cool town, it's just you know, because of the spirit of this, this hang that the three of us are having I'll tell you that. They're very creative. They're they support the arts. It's a really cool community great spirituality. The women are beautiful. They all want to be Miss Universe nice. And you know, unfortunately they've had you know, my dad always used to say when he was alive My dad God rest his soul used to say to me, Martine, the only thing the only bad thing about Argentinian politicians is that they are Argentinian.

 

The Ghost  06:22

You know, Martin V you can kind of I'm kind of on the same level. I'm from Bosnia born and raised and a bunch of shit happened there in the 90s if you can remember so we kind of I do I do. Yeah. I'm here because of that shit. So I we I've when I read that I'm like, we I can connect to him Yeah, cuz I get it.

 

06:39

Yeah, man. Ran away, man. My parents escaped like possibly your you know, your friends of yours. Or they just my parents got out of there so that my sister and I could have a better life. Right? And we did they come they came to America back in the days where it was like making it come into America. And that's still the case with so many people that know that their own pound for pound, this is a better joint than any other place on the planet. 100% Yeah, there are some great places. There are some great places by the way, I've, I'm a fan of many other countries and many other cultures, and I don't judge. But there's something about the freedom of spirit here, you know, that you can make it happen if you you know, you put you put your heart you can will things in, in this country in it. And there's a spirit in this country that is hard to find it does exist elsewhere. And then, of course, you know, I grew up in Manhattan in New York City, 90 on 92nd Street, Broadway. And then my dad was a musician. So we moved around a lot depending on wherever he had a gig. He was a doctor. So I lived in of all places in San Juan, Puerto Rico for several years. And then I moved to Vermont, a small town called Middlebury, Vermont, and then I went to high school there. And then I head down to I was in I was back in New York for film and music school. And then I came out to California after that I lived out here, man, it's got to be 20 something years in and just outside of LA. And, you know, I, I, I've met my handful of idiots. But you know, I say you got if you can live in the idiot free zone, you meet some really good people. And I've been really blessed and fortunate to have an amazing family. And, you know, people that have my back and I have theirs and Exactly. So I'm in a really good place now. And happy to be here, man. Happy to be here with you guys.

 

JD  08:27

I love it. Man. I love everything. You're

 

08:29

saying.

 

The Ghost  08:30

I love it. I know. Right? I got to ask you. You said Vermont. Well, now I understand.

 

JD  08:39

A couple of things in your biography did jump out at us. Individual Levels here.

 

The Ghost  08:45

Something jumped out at Martin that really stood out. We'll talk about it here in a minute or your your film my friend's wedding reception, and oh, yeah, the thumbnail had Bernie Sanders on it. I was like, What the hell is Bernie doing on here? Oh, blood. Ghost loves him some bribe? Fan. You could feel the burn. I can feel the burn, man. I love Bernie. He's a good dude. He's, I wish I wish I knew more like you. I didn't know you worked with him. That's amazing.

 

09:14

So when I grew up in Vermont, I went to high school there actually I didn't grew up there. But I went to high school there. Right? Bernie was the mayor of Burlington, Vermont. And we knew him as this this guy that used to just walk around the streets and talk to people and it was very approachable. And just a very funny guy that I think the general public is unaware How funny he is because he he has, you know, his political persona. But and and so he used to, I had a band in Vermont. And we he used he came out a couple times. And so I was playing and he and his wife are just delightful people and they used to Boogie to blues and rock and roll. And then when I was making my first feature film, which was based on a true story, that I was asked to go play my, my ex girlfriend's wedding. I wrote that script, and then boom, we put my credit cards into it and my savings and friends and family and whatnot. And, and just the way, and by, by the time I was making that film in the late 90s, he was already had made his way into Congress. And I called him up and I said, Hey, man, and he, by the way, he was a fan of my dad's and, and and, you know, he was in Vermont. You know, it's, there's more cows than people. So everybody knows everybody, right? And so I called Bernie and I said, Hey, man, there's something about the way you deliver on an on msnbc that just reminds me of like, a rabbi or something, or a priest, or a spiritualist or a shaman, like, you're preaching up there, you know? Yep. And so I told him the little concept that I had for his cameo in the movie, I said, I know this is kind of out there, but would you want to be in my film, and I described to him that the character in the movie is a rabbi, that starts to bless the couple that just got married. And somehow he gets caught up in talking about for some reason, baseball, and how it really upset him when the Dodgers left Brooklyn, and I started describing this to him, that he gets sidetracked on this other like, whatever. And he just, he totally understood the humor in that in this, you know, kind of like a Mel Brooks kind of moment, right? slash Woody Allen moment, which are the two, you know, and this was a comedy and those rights, right, because that I was influenced by as a kid. Yeah. So he said, Absolutely. And you know, and I, I didn't, you know, I told him when we were shooting, I gave the window, I said, you could come anytime during the following three weeks, and I gave him the three weeks. And in the spring of that year that we were shooting the movie. And we didn't know when he was going to show up or if he was going to show up. And lo and behold, one day at a left field, we're getting ready to shoot a scene. And somebody says to me, Bernie Sanders is here and he says he's playing the rabbi. But I hadn't told anybody except the producers, right. And, and he showed up with the perfect outfit, including the yarmulke. Oh, God, and wow. And he showed up, he knew his lines. He got on, he got on stage. One take boom, no way. And I said, You know, I said, I got it, man. I got into one taken. He says, maybe we still one more time, just to be sure. Maybe he said, No. I said, I'm good.

 

The Ghost  12:33

I said, Can we do one more?

 

JD  12:37

Again, asking if we can do one more take?

 

12:43

You're going to love this line. You're going to love this line. I said no. And I said, Bernie, we're good. And I don't want to I don't want to wait. You know, I don't want to waste your time. your valuable time. We're good. You nailed it in one take. And he goes, I think I think I think you should go for a close up. I think you should go for a close up on this. Oh,

 

The Ghost  12:57

my God, dude, I couldn't picture this. I'm more than I needed that story. Life. I needed it. That was amazing. So he just showed up on your sample like in your people. He Bernie's here, the rabbi. That's amazing. I'm sorry. I love that.

 

13:22

Right now. He's a good man. He's a good man. And you know what? He's He's really funny. Uh, seriously, if he had a second career, or a second lifetime, he would have been an actor and would have been a very, very funny man in film he would have been looked upon as a just a comedy kind of guy.

 

The Ghost  13:39

Did you film a movie? In 2020? This is the annealer I know it came out in 2020 that it did you is it out? Or

 

13:48

we shot we shot it it's coming out this summer. Okay. shot it in Arizona in the middle of the summer. It was it was way too hot. And but it was perfect for the for the mood of the movie. And it's a it's a psycho sci fi kind of horror thriller. Really, really cool, very anti bully theme about the what can happen in a situation where somebody abuses their power, you know, and they didn't mean for it to be a you know, correlation to political climate in the US but right. But it was kind of unavoidable. Right, but it was a trippy, trippy experience. really wonderful cast and that one for some reason. You know, a lot of people are digging it you know, you never know when you when you go out make a movie just you just really don't know if people are gonna dig it or not. It's it's that one for some reason is striking a chord.

 

The Ghost  14:46

How was it filming during the COVID? Was it was there an issue? Do you guys have any problems?

 

JD  14:52

I'm assuming Yeah, I'm sure that added some some challenges.

 

14:55

Here's what we did with that that movie was shot. Mostly I'm going to say mostly right before COVID nice and then

 

JD  15:05

you got in like just in time

 

15:06

just in time but then we have to we have to do some other stuff and to augment the visual effects and the rest of the movie so we yes you know, I did a couple of things in 2020 ended a couple of TV things with music concert broadcast shows also and you know, we have to test in the morning and everybody had to be pro this protocols that we had to follow. Right and you know, it was it was I would just say it was not necessarily enjoyable because you know, everybody's in a scenario where you're, you've been in isolation for a while and then you want to be able to you know, I'm a hug I'm a hug kind of guy you know, I'm a bro hug guy bro hug guy right? I miss everybody was missing that. That's that's the issue that I think our human nature has learned more than any of the things that we know we are we are people who are connected. Not you know, but by more than just spirituality. So yeah, it was it was it was a trippy year. I know the entertainment is just coming back with a vengeance. I mean, I have some stuff going on the summer. And I you know, cannot wait for to get back on a sec. cannot wait to get back on tour. All that stuff. Yeah, back and keep showering people with entertainment.

 

JD  16:23

That's beautiful, man. I love it. I absolutely love it. So that's good. So you got some good stuff, some stuff coming on. So So what else can you tell us about the movie? You're saying sci fi? I'm here in Arizona, something in desert vibe. Like I'm getting some good vibes from it for sure.

 

16:35

Yeah, it's it's a it's a. here's, here's the hook and I'm not giving anything away. This is the reason I decided to do the movie. Which really, I get pitched a lot of stuff. And suddenly what came out at me in this movie was in the first five to 10 minutes of the film, we realized that this kid was been bullied and bullied and bullied. he acquires this kind of supernatural Native American power, if you will, where anything that anybody tries to do to him that could be harmful. It the pain gets reversed. Nice. Oh, anybody who's trying to bestow pain upon this kid feels whatever they're doing, physically to him. He doesn't feel that's different. And I thought, wow, that's reverse pain. That's really I've never seen that in the film.

 

JD  17:27

Yeah. Kind of like a spiritual acid for blood.

 

17:30

Oh, very well said. I like that. Very well said, man.

 

JD  17:33

Thank you. I got aliens on the mind. I've been watching lately.

 

The Ghost  17:37

Brought up aliens. How is it working with Lance henriksen.

 

17:42

He is a trip man. He He's fearless. And he puts a lot of his own personal life experience into the role. So for instance, leaving our first morning together was a breakfast and we chatted about what we were going to shoot that day. Yeah. And along the way, while we were chatting, he, you know, he told me a story, something that happened to him in his childhood that he was relating to that had to do with what we were about to shoot. And I was like, Man, fuck what's in the script? Let's just shoot what you just told me. But

 

JD  18:13

yeah, you're a character. And he was like,

 

18:15

Ah, no, I'm not gonna do that to me. He said, let me know what let me talk to the writer was on set who is also the producer. If he gives it a you know, two deals up, we'll do nice. And so

 

JD  18:26

loving. He's gonna make

 

18:28

now it's great. Yeah, it's so much fun. It's very organic two deals up. And you know, and there's two deals down when you know, you don't want you don't want to get you don't want to you don't want to. You don't want

 

JD  18:40

to it's real sour, man. You don't wanna you don't want

 

18:43

to you know, I'm gonna just say, most girls are going to run from anybody who's got two deals down

 

19:01

below one roof.

 

JD  19:06

Oh, I love it. I love it. So so. So you guys pitched it to the writer and and how did How'd that go from there? Yeah, he's

 

19:13

very henriksen is really organic. We shot. So I'll just say for anybody who hasn't seen the film that, you know, the scene in the movie where where Henrickson his character passes away. Uh huh. That was that was part of his like, personal something that happened him and his personal life that he something that happened to him, you know, in his life, and then he created it, but he's a super organic guy. You gotta love when that happens. And oh, yeah. And somebody is willing to bring Oh, yeah,

 

JD  19:42

you know, real world into there. Yeah.

 

19:45

Brando was like that jack Nicholson's De Niro's like that certain

 

JD  19:50

parallel with that sometimes, too, like, you can really like get caught up in the roll. Yeah, stuff like that. Like, oh, without a doubt. Yeah.

 

19:56

Right. And I see what you're saying and people walk around the set. Sometimes. character and there's that gray area but it's cool it's what you know the the lens the camera lens and any any you know filmmakers listening to this out there know this camera lens is a truth since it wants truth in it and that's how it yes it its authenticity comes from you know an honest performance or sir.

 

20:23

Yeah,

 

20:24

you're absolutely that's what we look for when we're in a theater or we're watching, you know we want to be moved emotionally and emotion is driven by some form of truth.

 

JD  20:33

Right? Absolutely. We want to feel it we want to we want to experience it we want we want genuine Yeah,

 

20:41

absolutely. Yeah. Right on man right on and, and you know, I'll tell you something, I'm just going to slide from one movie to another for two seconds. Now niceville paradise Cove is a film that that is out now that I directed. It's a psychological thriller about that about this movies in Malibu called paradise Cove. And it's about isolationism. And it's about a crazy star that is homeless living under a house in Malibu, and it's kind of like a fatal attraction. It's really cool. And the reason I'm bringing it up is because that realism that's some sort of truth that you just raised dress. We shot that movie paradise Cove, which is out right now we shot that in the house. It's based on a true story. Yeah, in the house where that actually happened.

 

The Ghost  21:27

Really? Wow. And we're in

 

21:29

Malibu. Yeah. And we shot it in Malibu. So when you see paradise Cove, that's a true story. And that actually did happen in the house that we shot that movie. And

 

JD  21:39

so that had to add to the the vibe and everything. Like as you were like, you know, moving through the process.

 

21:44

Yeah, it was definitely creepy. Creepy.

 

The Ghost  21:48

I got to ask, based on national events, or

 

21:53

Yes, yep. The paradise Cove is, yep, it's Mena suvari, Kristen Bauer, Todd Grinnell really nice cast, but it's just like this really cool, hip, fun as entertaining as all hell. And I don't necessarily say that about some of the films I've made, but that one is just really entertaining. Because it did happen. But yeah, you know, it becomes a triangle between the couple that lives in the house, and this beautiful x movie star who is absolutely out of her mind, and she's homeless, and she leaves underneath the house and she is causing some, let's just call this sexual tension, to say the least, that's insane.

 

JD  22:35

Wow, and see the one play by Mena suvari.

 

22:38

So Mina, Mina plays the the the you know, the perturbed wife who's trying to rational one trying to make a wife Yeah, trying to make a baby trying to make a baby.

 

JD  22:48

Right. And, and

 

22:49

Kristin Bauer plays this, you know, femme fatale, who's just like, she was so good in this so good.

 

JD  22:58

I can't wait to see it's out. Yeah,

 

22:59

that one's out already. I can see it everywhere, anywhere, anywhere that movies, you know, Amazon. Yeah. So right now,

 

The Ghost  23:05

you can rent it for 399 on amazon prime, or Amazon. Period, right. On the when? When did you film this one? When does this was was this one filmed during COVID as well or? No?

 

23:17

No, that one was filmed early 2019.

 

The Ghost  23:24

Early 2000 or so? So everything yeah,

 

23:27

yeah. Yeah. Pre everything

 

JD  23:28

the long ago though, the before time. Yeah.

 

23:32

Right. Right. You know, what's really interesting man is, you know, I have a series of movies coming out back to back this year. And I'm not bragging or patting myself on the back, just information that is odd. But interesting to those out there who might go like, Oh, this guy was shooting during COVID. You know, these movies that I made in 2018 2019, and 20, early 2020, they all bumped into each other in post production. So I spent most of my 2020 either editing, writing music, getting visual effects, all that stuff. And now because there's a scarcity and content, it's been a blessing to all the producers that made these movies I directed are in the films that I produce, that were directed by other people. We were all very blessed. You know, the the silver lining for entertainment and for filmmakers and creators is that there's a skill, you know, there's not a lot of content out there. So we were able to get these movies out relatively quickly. Because usually you go to film festivals, or you shop them and you hope somebody buys and I'm talking about independent films, right? And so none of these films were made by the studio's or even many majors, and it's just a blessing and really cool to know that they're all going to be out in the next few months. I have, you know, whatever, five, six movies coming out, but everybody's like, dude, you've been working. I've been no man. I have not been working. I've been sitting at home and quarantined, but you know, right,

 

The Ghost  24:54

but I gotta I gotta ask you because I've noticed there's a there's a pattern in your films, and I want To ask which one do you enjoy more? Do you like working with writers that write the screenplay? And they you take it and get envision of as a director? Or do you prefer writing something on your own and then directing your own vision that you already had? I'm curious, I have to know.

 

25:18

That's an incredibly smart and insightful, creative. Question two deals up on that question to those

 

25:24

two deals,

 

The Ghost  25:25

there was.

 

25:30

There there is, there's something very fulfilling about the crew, the creative collaborative spirit of, of, you know, the challenge for me as a director to try to nail the original intent of a writer. When somebody you know, when somebody is writing, as you know, we all have something, you know, we picture something when we're writing, right? Oh, for me to be able to hear a writer say to me, man, that's how I pictured it. That That means that as a director, I was able to accomplish staying true to the original intent of the writer. And now there is, and there's something really cool about being on a set and having objectivity as director because I didn't write it and be able to say to writer in the cast, Hey, man, I think here, you know, we need to throw her off the cliff, because even though it's not written, that makes more sense to me. And then everybody like, wow, yeah, let's try that. And then, and then you got to hope that the writer is open to all possibilities, because your screenplay gets rewritten when you're shooting it. And it gets, the final rewrite is in the editing. Right? You have to be open to listening to what the movie is asking is it's true right? Now, that's even as good as that is. There's nothing more. There's no, there's no greater turn on in this process of filmmaking in telling a story with a cinematic medium than being able to direct the script you write? Because you can protect it. Yeah. Yeah. And not only can you protect their dead, right, or you can, you can protect as creative as you can protect its creative integrity. But also, there's something really cool about challenging yourself and saying, Well, now I've been living and married to the screenplay, I need to be open, I need to take chances, I need to listen and hear. Now a little, a little methodology that I applied to this to just to be to be transparent and safe about it is I'll do it both ways. Like if I'm on the set on directing a film that have a script that I've written, and I have a vision, and somebody says to me, hey, wouldn't it be cool? If this person, you know, shoved the pickle in this guy's face? And I would go like, Oh, I don't like pickles. And I don't see that why we would do that in this movie. But they go like, Yeah, but think about it. It's unpredictable. I would go like, Okay, you know what, let's do that. But then let's also get what's on the page that I wrote, let's get both and then I'll have that option in the editing room.

 

The Ghost  28:03

Amazing. Love it. That's the reason why I brought it up is because some of my favorite directors of all time are all writers. They write their own movies. So I wanted to ask I, I lean towards, per se directors that write their own stuff. And I don't know why I don't think I'm the same way with that. Yeah, I couldn't even answer that question. Like, why? I don't know.

 

JD  28:27

I'm not even necessarily sure if it's like, yeah, for me, it's just like, it's not even a preference thing. It's just like, it just happens to be like, you know, the James Cameron's, like, the parents, he knows, you know, the ones that I just really love happened to Yeah, they happen to write their own stuff. Yeah. So

 

28:40

I think that's the reason for that is because we all agree, we love when it's one voice one mind, and we're, you know, we're traveling through a stream of consciousness that's coming from one particular perspective, because it makes it it makes it a little bit. Gosh, you know, I'm just gonna say it, it, it has more energy. There's something about it that has more clarity. It has it takes there's something that there's more right here. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I

 

JD  29:13

know exactly what you're talking about. Like there's, there's a there's an X factor that's added to it.

 

29:19

Yes, yes. Yes. I agree. I'm the same way. I've always been a fan of all tours. And then every so often, you know, you you bump into a director and you go like, wow, you know, this cat can take a script. Yeah, you know, like a Ridley Scott or Michael Mann or you know, there's the list the list goes on and on and it's Yeah, people who just who can actually take a script and make it their own right. They kind of rewrite it in their own way.

 

The Ghost  29:45

Yeah, bring up Martin Scorsese. He does that shit fucking masterfully man. I mean, he did. Without Oh, my God, dude. Insane. Huh?

 

29:57

He is a special he's a special person. I am I connected with him early in my film, no shit Tom feature directing career and he he was also just very how unconditional and kind in general so was De Niro at one point or another?

 

The Ghost  30:20

Yeah, I was I was God. I direct I

 

30:24

directed a I was asked to direct I directed a feature called the Bronx bull that I co wrote years ago, which was the prequel sequel to Raging Bull. And when I was asked to direct that feature, or be involved in it, I was like, wow, I don't know man, Raging Bull that's like sacred ground. I don't want to get this owned by, you know, the Directors Guild and the industry that I love and, and then I met Jake lamotta. And he he, when he told me his story, and what was missing from the original film, I was like, You know what? He was in his 90s. I was like, you want to set the record straight? Let's go do this. And so I directed and co wrote and directed the Bronx bowl. And the reason I bring it up is because I did have to go and get, you know, blessings, because I wasn't going to do it without Marty's Scorsese's blessings for Nero's blessings and Joe Pesci, his writings. And in you know, they all in their own way did that, you know, for they said, Go make an honest film. And, you know, Scorsese said, I don't do sequels, and, you know, but go make Go Go make an honest film, and De Niro at one point, was interested in playing a cameo in it and it the timing just wasn't right and then passionate, personally, I met with and we shared, you know, time together and he gave me He gave me some insight as to how they shot the original regime, the raging bull picture and, and some of the process that they that they creatively utilize and how much freedom Scorsese gave to, to the actors and how much he he like he just said, how much he would play off of the script and allow for the realism of life to enter onto the frame. And so that's the approach that I took on the Bronx bowl and kind of made it made it an homage to, to Scorsese and Coppola and the filmmakers that that do that. Oh, yeah.

 

The Ghost  32:06

Yeah, you know,

 

32:08

I just figured I'd throw that in. And you know, just yeah, it was it was a really cool experience.

 

JD  32:13

That's awesome. That is too cool. All right. So I'm gonna shift gears a little bit here because I have to ask because, again, we were looking through, you know, your biography on IMDB. And there was one name that stuck out to me that I just had to ask you about. So several musicians mean you know, I'm looking here we got we got Don Felder. We've got Sammy Hagar, we've got George Thurgood but for me, the one that really stuck out Lemmy Kilmister Yeah,

 

32:41

wow. Interesting.

 

JD  32:43

Oh, yeah. Tell me about it.

 

32:46

So, so let me was was I met him at the famous Rainbow Room. And he's

 

JD  32:55

playing his second home. Yeah.

 

32:57

Right. Very well. Sad. Exactly. People. Few people know that. His general public doesn't know it. A lot of people know but general. Yeah. And

 

JD  33:05

I'm like, I'm a you have

 

The Ghost  33:06

no clue what you what you just opened up. Oh, you get in because this man is. Get ready. Yeah.

 

33:16

You mean from from a very young age?

 

JD  33:19

Ah, yeah, actually, I think from middle school when I really started to kind of discover what I was into. And yeah, and I bought marcher dye. And I just remember that. Oh, yeah.

 

33:31

Wow, wow. You know, it had a lasting effect on you. Hmm.

 

JD  33:35

Oh, 100% it's, I've got everything they, you know, their entire their entire discography. I've got some of the you know, the DVDs of the concerts. I had to meet him one time it was awesome. But I want to I want to hear I want to hear well, like experience

 

33:50

Oh, he was you know, he was already you know, not well and and but unaware of how much time that you know, he was unaware that he had an expiration date coming up so

 

JD  34:04

and we all were kind of unaware

 

34:06

of that would come you're so right man. You we thought he was indestructible the way that he wrote he sang and performed carried himself. So a guitarist songwriter from the Netherlands Chris de Klerk had reached out to me through our label called Pacific records that I've done some records for and great guys over there. Brian Wicken and Pat, Pat pixley. And they brought me this project and they said, you know, Chris, has the attention of Lemmy Kilmister, to to, I guess, what would be a solo record a solo thing, and I was like, oh, man, are you kidding? I'm, I'm all I'm all for it. So yeah, we jumped right into it. And I called my buddies over at the Foo Fighters over at Dave Grohl and Taylor Those guys Jonathan Stover at the Foos fighters studio and in Northridge, where I do most of my recordings when I when I when I, when I record live like when it's a live band, and I told them about it and of course, you know, those guys are huge fans.

 

JD  35:14

I say Dave is like, he was like attached to that. With Lemmy.

 

35:17

Yes, correct. Yeah, big time, big time. And so, you know, we went in there and we you know, what it was was basically this was you know, little did we all knows to be like, you know, his last recording as you know, last last performance on record. Wow. And he played bass and he he co wrote it fix some things on the song and you know, just an absolute gentleman and Chris if a kid from the Netherlands this was like a dream come true cuz he sent the song to me and he never in his mind ever imagined that Lemmy would respond to it saying the source code we are the ones and I'll for anybody you know, on YouTube I'm sure you can find it out there and it was really an you'll see them the video on YouTube if you look up we are the ones let me come mister. Yeah, I'm interviewed on there and you'll you'll get the behind the scenes of it all. But it was a it was a trip man. It was a trip It was a trip it was intense. The energy was intense because you have to be very true. And very you right? You have to write like there was this sound and this rawness that you cannot interfere with there cannot be any fluff that cannot be any Oh gosh, let's add some strings or Oh gosh, let's add some backups. No, no, no,

 

The Ghost  36:35

he wouldn't.

 

36:36

Nope This is raw in your face. rockin one takes one takes. Oh, here it is this I just did it. Well, can you do it this way? No. What I what I felt I just did and this is in you got it. It's already on tape. I'm not there's no if I do it again. It'll be different.

 

JD  36:54

That is everything that I want. Let me do

 

The Ghost  36:56

I let me is literally like I love them. But now I love them even more. I didn't know he did this shit, man. That's that is fucking awesome. Dude. What? I'm gonna tell you you're super lucky dude. I knew he was a super fucking dope, dude. I didn't know that he went on that level. I mean, this man is an angel. Just he played heavy metal.

 

JD  37:19

Oh, there there really? There are many reasons why he was absolutely Beloved. Like the world is absolutely Darko without without Lenny.

 

37:27

I would check it out. Here's the tune.

 

JD  37:42

Oh my god.

 

The Ghost  37:45

Okay, that sounds so fucking fired. No, just

 

37:56

watch me lose.

 

JD  38:01

My God, that is so bad. I gotta I gotta check that

 

The Ghost  38:04

out. We are the ones like he's, he's straight rock. Are we gonna say? Yes.

 

JD  38:20

It's all going back to pickles. It all goes back to pickles.

 

The Ghost  38:26

Every time.

 

38:32

I think that line he said to me was something like, I'm okay. I'm okay with with going. But I'm not okay with the leaving.

 

JD  38:42

Oh, my God.

 

The Ghost  38:44

Wow.

 

38:46

Because where you're going is kind of interesting. You don't know what's it's all discovery. It's a new world. It's frequencies and it's you leaving your body and if you have a strong spirit, then something happens. But his is the idea of leaving the loved ones and the things you know everything that you know so well. And dig leaving all that behind. right that the true Yep. But we have to we have to be fearless You know?

 

JD  39:13

And let me what that moment Lemmy was absolutely fearless. Yeah. Oh my God, this has been outstanding, Martin. I really I really appreciate you. Yeah, coming on and and just hang with us, man. This has been outstanding. Um, so time. Do you have any any kind of projects you have coming up that you want to you want to tell the world about? So we've talked about paradise Cove a little bit, but anything else you want to throw?

 

39:40

I'll throw this out there. I'll mention it. You know, and I'm really excited about a couple things. I'm doing one this this. I'm filming this year. I'm directing a feature. It's an NBA project. It's about the first black guy to play basketball. So like it's about the Jackie Robinson of basketball.

 

39:57

Oh cool. His

 

39:58

name was Sweetwater. clipped in and we're shooting that and then I've got a couple of other really fun cool projects also there's a there's a Billy Joel musical kind of like the right hand man of elton john but for Billy Joel right. And then and then there's a couple of the usual things man where I like I'm genre agnostic. And so you know watch for a comedy out there called Big Finish about all the the old guard and all the you know, the Mel Brooks's of the industry are going to be in that one that are still alive. God bless.

 

The Ghost  40:29

We just talked a little bit ago. Oh, god, he's still alive. That's gonna be a fucking Yeah,

 

JD  40:37

I'm not

 

The Ghost  40:38

gonna I'm not gonna dwell on that. No, we're not. No, Martin. We want to really thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you for taking the time and letting us know all this amazing things that happened in your life, man. Thanks so much. Yeah, man, you've

 

JD  40:53

got such a fascinating life, man. We like we really appreciate you sharing it with us.

 

40:58

I appreciate your time. And you know, all the all the this this was full of all the things that you know, I jumped out of bed for man, you know, laughter intensity. You know, you know, just really creative, super creative. It's been so much fun being here. And you know what? I'm just gonna say this man. power, power to the devil.

 

JD  41:33

Add, Dan, that was a good interview. We had so much fun talking to Martin want to thank him for the stories want to thank him for just hanging out. The Lemmy stories really, really hit home for me. So definitely appreciate that. It was awesome having him on here. We do have in with us today. Miss sugar with a special announcement Miss sugar take us away.

 

41:51

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JD  42:19

All right, so we got the April charity ready to go. So help us do some good Lola and sugar are doing really good. I want to thank them. As always, they're always busting their asses for this, this project that we're doing that we're working on with them. So really appreciate that. So help us raise some money for that. Help us do some good, put some good vibes out there. Check us out next week. We do have a good buddy of ours. Nick from movie theater Time Machine is going to be joining us we are covering the Super Mario Brothers movie. You know the one we're talking about the one from the 90s we had a blast that went off the rails a little bit. I'm not even gonna lie, that one goes off the rails. So have fun with that one. I hope you guys enjoy that one. And instead of my usual random nonsense at the end of the episode here, I am going to leave you if you listen to the very end, we're gonna have an extra special treat, then we get to hear a sample of the song in the actual episode. But the full version is gonna be available at the end of the show here. So that's Chris de Klerk featuring Lemmy Kilmister we are the ones it fucking rocks and Miss sugar if you could take us out.

 

43:20

All right, Holly weirdos, we'll see you in weirdo Ville.

 

The Ghost  43:26

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45:16

I can feel it on

 

The Ghost  45:37

night

 

47:00

running down the drain

 

47:08

this shows the game

 

JD  48:12

within a wrestling match Let me hear God

 

The Ghost  48:14

let me God wrong dickhead Trick question let me use god damn