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00:03
two
movies enter,
JD 00:04
but
which one shall survive? Who will win in this spooky standoff as we pit stir of
echoes against sixth sense? Find out today on this haunted 90s edition of going
Hollywood
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00:19
ah
broadcasting from the not so secret underground layer here in weirdo Ville so
put on your foil helmets accept the offer you can't refuse because you just
entered our cinematic world of going to Hollywood
JD 00:46
no
cookie lately?
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00:47
I have
like fucking last week I love those goddamn things dude. Okay, those
JD 00:52
things
are incredible First of all, but okay have they gotten smaller
The Ghost
00:59
the
chocolate in the middle definitely got smaller the fucking cookie got bigger the
cookie itself bigger the chocolate was is much thinner but still taste good why
what's random as shitter
JD 01:12
dude I
just like I was kind of upset like I got some recently I got some of the
coconut ones and they seemed smaller like lay I was almost like has my hand
gotten bigger since last time I've had them Alonzo and
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01:26
it kind
of freaked me out. That's got to be the fattest fucking thing you set him like
two months.
JD 01:33
legitimately
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01:34
like
literally in the last two months the fattest thing he said he would say it on
the fucking show. I love it.
JD 01:41
I'm just
over here thinking about mulato cookies. And you know now I want more mulato
cookies cuz I don't feel like I got enough.
The Ghost
01:46
It's
like did the cookie gets smaller? Or did my hand get fatter? Like what? What's
hap both
JD 01:51
What if
it's both? Or maybe it's both the mystery? Well, that is a mystery. So welcome
to go in Hollywood. I am JD mare of weird OVA with me as my partner in crime
the ghost he who haunts weird over. So you get what I'm talking about? Just a
little bit, just a little sample,
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02:13
a little
sample funny data that I am the ghost. And the movies that we're talking about
today. Kind of are similar to my name,
JD 02:23
and I
love to involve you a little bit now. What would you say that's appropriation
of any kind?
The Ghost
02:29
Possibly,
JD 02:30
maybe
some possible spiritual appropriation? I mean, you're the expert. You're the
resonant ghost. So
The Ghost
02:37
that's a
highly likely I mean, I've been wanting to talk about these two separately and
we are going to talk about these two separately, but I don't know.
JD 02:46
today.
We present to you our very first versus episode. At some point we're going to
come up with a better name for it. I don't know what the fuck we're gonna call
him right now. But right now it's just a fucking vs episode. I promise you
something more clever down the road. today. We are pitting stir of echoes
against six cents.
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03:07
And I
know those probably sound if you first hear them a little weird. But trust me,
ladies and gentlemen. This is actually these are really similar, but different
at the same time. It's crazy.
JD 03:22
Yeah.
Definite connections, definite similarities. Kind of one of these movies that
came out you know, like, it always seems to happen. You have a movie that comes
out like within, like within a month of each other. You know, you had a deep
impact. Yes, tombstone wider. Yep. This was the supernatural equivalent of that
this was the someone seeing ghosts and someone's acting crazy. And we're taking
two separate approaches. So I gotta admit, sir Rebecca is actually had gone
under my radar. I gotta admit that
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03:53
sad sad.
It took me this shit came out in 99 I didn't see it until like 2008 and I
remember buying it on blu ray and then losing it because I don't fucking habit
I'm like where to hell is my stir of echoes don't have it anymore doesn't
matter maybe my ex kept it fucker No seriously, but I really watched it
recently in it it's it's it's it stands up there man it's it's a good thriller.
It is a
JD 04:19
deadly
holds a thriller definitely does. And, you know, like I said, I it went under
my radar. I did not know about it. I'm not going to try to pretend that I did.
I didn't see it until I was doing research for this episode. And it's crazy.
That said, this is Kevin bate. One of Kevin Bacon's best performances, man. I
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04:36
mean, in
Kevin Bacon. Out of all the fucking people you didn't see this with Kevin
Bacon, dude.
JD 04:44
You
know, it's just like one of those things like sometimes the movie just slips
under and under shocked even for a movie guy like myself, you know, it just is
what it is. But so so obviously, you know, a lot of people I'm sure know about
serb echoes, but the word rolled nose six cents. Absolutely Yeah, no
The Ghost
05:03
these
these two movies as different as they are. They're very similar. And I think I
think the six senses is I can't even you can't really look at these two movies
and say which one is actually better because they're so different and so
similar at the same time, right? But the six senses more on my style.
JD 05:25
Well,
and you mentioned on the show, I mean, if anybody who's followed the show
anyway knows that the ghost is extremely passionate about M. Night Shyamalan.
The Ghost
05:33
Hey, we
being as unbiased as possible Ladies and gentlemen, I've even promised JD
there's a you dude, you've got to go into this episode. We're not talking about
just success. This is a vs be as unbiased as possible,
JD 05:46
for the
sake of professionalism. So, we we have devised a wee bit of a rudimentary
system to try to determine which one is going to be the winner. So yeah, we're
basically just going to go through the movies here and we're going to see which
one holds up. Alright, so both movies are a kind of a supernatural thriller.
Definitely. from both movies are definitely full of some some mystery, right?
Definitely some ghost vibes. Ghost for sure vibes throughout. For sure. Very
different approaches,
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06:23
though.
immensely. I mean, I watched both of them not back to back but because I've
seen to succeed so many fucking times. But right when you when I rewatch them
both, there are definitely different movies they are and I wouldn't even a DJ
genre here is thriller. They are both thrillers. However, specifically
JD 06:43
supernatural
thriller.
The Ghost
06:45
Correct.
But there's a difference between the Sixth Sense being a psychological drama
thriller. This one is more psychological horror thriller. That's the way that I
would look at it. I
JD 06:56
would
even say with a little bit of mystery thrown in there. So sure, a couple it's
got a lot going. It's got a lot going on.
The Ghost
07:03
And
that's what I mean, most thrillers are sprinkled in mystery nets, the spice
that they add. Ooh, what happened? Who did this? Is this person dead? Well, we
don't kill who it's it's one of those. It's just supernatural in this aspect.
JD 07:15
Alright,
so let's take a look at main actors for our main characters first, so the one
that's the one the one that sees the one that is involved with the the other
side. So Kevin Bacon's character sturb echoes, adult man, Chicago one yes, I
did notice this is definitely gonna go into one of the X Factor categories for
me is I think Kevin Bacon actually pulled the accent off extremely well. I
believed him as a Chicago and
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07:46
immensely
Chicago.
JD 07:49
resident
of Chicago there you go
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07:51
now
immensely do I even told my wife I was like my god Kevin Bacon is absolutely
annihilating this fucking Chicago accent that even from Chicago you see from
Chicago cuz he's telling that shit I'm
JD 08:03
not even
totally sure where he's from because like, because if you watch tremors, I mean
he's got that fucking Southern accent going perfect dude, then watch you watch
wild things. He's got like that authority cop. Like, you know, just like you
know what I'm talking about. Like you don't like it's a separate it's it's not
just the talking. It's the Where were you on the you know, a little bit of
manual prisms?
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08:25
Yeah,
aneurisms, that little bit of authority in the voice like that you see? And
it's like like, but he's pulled all of those off. It's great well, and it's and
he's it's the timeframe where he was that 99 2000 where he played cuz he played
hollow man after this. So he plays that that character even though he was a bad
guy in Holloman right plays that stern guy really well and I do he killed this
this is one of my favorite roles that he's in man a great a
JD 08:55
great
and he's you know firmly working man very believable is working very
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09:01
immensely
actually.
JD 09:02
Very
late laced Ace chasing a dream you know? Yeah, some some music dreams and and
that's awesome. So So on the other side, you got six cents you've got Cole seer
and I gotta be honest, bro. I didn't realize what his last name was. Fuck you.
When they last name
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09:21
called
seer, seer, seer. seer. Like is wrong with seer sere this motherfucker texted
me he says this motherfuckers name is sear I'm like fucking Sears his name I'm
like yes his fucking name is seer and you're going to respect that shit
respected character
JD 09:40
john
every man
The Ghost
09:43
What is
wrong with sere? When I ladies and gentlemen we're not getting off this topic
JD 09:47
because
he is a seer. So his last name is sear.
09:51
Oh,
JD 09:53
oh, you
just got it.
The Ghost
09:56
I just
fucking got it.
JD 10:01
Once
again the ghosts Mind is blown
The Ghost
10:04
stop
everything we're doing I don't think you understand bro I literally didn't see
that bullshit coming I could just fucking pulled an M Night Shyamalan on me.
I'll actually never even that never made. I was thinking of the store like
Sears. I didn't think of Sears
JD 10:22
via
shamel on themed episode if there wasn't a twist I mean
The Ghost
10:27
bra you
just pulled it You did it You fucking did it man. I didn't actually truly
didn't see that shit. I did not see that shit. So now
JD 10:38
you got
to address that shit.
The Ghost
10:40
Wow. The
episode ladies and gentlemen with where both movies have a twist ending he
drops a twist ending in the episode. I learned the beginning
JD 10:50
to in
the beginning do like a small show so who knows where this could go? This could
go home Manor have crazy fucking love it man.
The Ghost
10:59
But no,
I honestly i think i think co cosier or
JD 11:04
played
by Haley Joel Osment?
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11:06
Hailey
Joe Osmond kills it, dude. He annihilates that role?
JD 11:10
He does
I gotta give him that like, like as a child actor. He was pretty. He was pretty
put together. He was pretty tight with that. He was he was he did good and
Forrest Gump. He did good. Now what else was he in? He was in that wouldn't
even that fucking in robot movie. There
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11:22
was a
robot movie was that's 2000 and it was in 2001. And there was AI that official
intelligent intelligence. He was in that in 2001 but this was same time frame
99 he was in pay it forward after that. And then he was right. He
JD 11:36
wasn't
paid for Yeah, he had he had a kind of a little bit of Macaulay Culkin thing
going on there for a bit.
The Ghost
11:43
He did.
Not as bad drug wise. He just got fat but yeah, he's great, man. I
11:48
think
he's amazing. Yeah, it killed it is
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11:52
the kid
kill that man. But I mean, look, we are under his wing. I mean, you have
legendary Bruce Willis right there. It's true. So I mean, he did his thing.
We're getting the job done. We're getting the job. The Bruce Willis played a
big role. Don't fucking don't. If you're talking about actors, I'm going to
bring in Bruce Willis here, man because Bruce Willis. I mean,
JD 12:11
there's
definitely I definitely you know what, let's talk about Bruce Willis. I thought
Bruce Willis was outstanding in this role,
The Ghost
12:17
dude, he
This is arguably and this is arguably one of his best roles when it comes to
acting like this is Bruce Willis actually acting not john McClane, action guy,
actor.
JD 12:31
attitude
I don't know man it does take it takes more than you think to be the action
actor.
The Ghost
12:37
Oh no,
I'm not doubting that but I think emotional acting is harder than physical.
JD 12:42
Dude I
don't know like in diehard if you watch it like no no he's emotionally driven
because his wife is in danger
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12:48
right
rocky wooden different emotional level but he's much different. Okay,
JD 12:52
fair
enough. Different different accessing different emotions correct?
The Ghost
12:55
Yeah,
right. Fair enough. Fair enough. comparable But
JD 12:59
well,
little bit little but they I guess it depends. It depends. I
The Ghost
13:02
mean,
anything if it depends? Yeah, right.
JD 13:07
So
you've got you've got okay mainly Kevin Bacon and Bruce Willis. Now here's the
thing as good as well as did in this role I do think that Kevin Bacon was
better in his role simply because the role lends itself to more range
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13:27
he plays
a crazy motherfucker towards the end
JD 13:31
right?
The who has so like goes from very normal to slowly evolving crazy whereas
Bruce Willis he had to stay in the psychologists or psychiatrists character you
know the the very laid back you know the very I'm neutral right? They that's I
don't obviously I'm not trained in any of that shit, but I know it is. It is
those are techniques
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13:55
there so
JD 13:57
he did
pull like from from what I imagined that person to be he did pull that off for
the most part.
The Ghost
14:04
I
believe I still think that I gotta go I gotta go for Kevin Bacon in when it
comes to acting and I'll give you my my my verdict here. When it comes to the
actual acting and I'm talking about which Which side do I like more do I like
the fucking crazy guy that he just he goes from you know, standard. Middle Age
fucking working blue collar regular guy right? Regular regular dude to crazy
psycho maniac that is just going insane. I mean, he's gone insane to off the
fucking deep. Yeah, off the deep end. Bruce Willis. Very, very subtle, very,
very quiet, very silent. He knows as a psychologist, he has to dilate.
JD 14:48
He has
to be neutral and calming.
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14:51
calming
that bright. But you have to also remember he underneath all of that subtlety.
There's this brewing of darkness that he's just harboring inside his fucking
stomach. That his his wife is not talking to him. She's on Zoloft for
antidepressants because he works so much he's working more than so there's
there's all of this he's not just the regular guy he is. He has to balance his
life, his personal life and his professional life. And the way Bruce Willis did
that the way the acting is with with the child, with the child actor and him,
it's it's superb, it's superb, dude. It's actually almost perfect the way those
two acted in that movie. So I'm gonna go with Bruce Willis just because of that
aspect. So these movies are what makes them also similar and unique at the same
time is one similarity and that these are director writer movies, meaning that
the same person directed and wrote the movie. A one is based on an original
idea. The other one is based from a book that really doesn't matter. It's the
fact that they're both director writer movies. One of them the sixth sense is
written by m Night Shyamalan. strobe echoes is directed by David Koepp. David
Karp, I apologize if I'm ruining his last name.
JD 16:20
I'm not
totally sure how to pronounce that either. So I apologize as well. So let's
start with David. I think I'm gonna say David cap.
The Ghost
16:28
David
cap, I guess no,
JD 16:30
I don't
know. David, you know, David Co Op. David Co Op, that's what we're going with.
So I
The Ghost
16:36
was
David cope. I thought it was David cope.
JD 16:38
is a
David cope.
The Ghost
16:39
I
thought it was alright, you
JD 16:41
know,
what is David cope? Alright, so So let's start with David Co Op, because I feel
like he's less of a household you fuck
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16:47
the name
of it's cope. That's co EP. cope.
JD 16:51
Alright,
so let's start with David cope. I feel like he's less of a household name. I
feel like that's what we should start with. So take us into David David cope a
little bit
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16:59
funny.
You said that he's just not a big household name like Shama lon But did you
know that David cope wrote Spider Man one and two
JD 17:07
that but
he's also he's involved with Jurassic Park and grant Jones. The jack Ryan
movies world
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17:14
the
world's big writer. He's huge. He's a huge screenwriter.
JD 17:18
You
know, it's it's one of those ones that I feel like I should have had. That
should be a household name.
The Ghost
17:23
Yeah,
and it's it's the reason why you're saying that is the directing. He's done a
secret window. He's done this. The Secret window I thought it was I thought
that was good, but it doesn't matter. I did David Koepp is a very also has twist
endings in his movies, which is hilarious, which because I love that right? And
so does m Night Shyamalan have twist ending. So that makes it similar as well
when it comes to these two movies. But I think David cope is a much, much
different director. He's more gritty. He's more especially early m Night
Shyamalan. I'm going with early night. David cope is more gritty. He's more in
your face. He blogged already kind of you know what I mean, to
JD 18:03
bring us
into shamel on a little bit. I would, I would, I would say that. He is kind of
the opposite. He's almost a little bit too clean.
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18:11
He said
that he doesn't want to do PG movies. He wants to add just enough terror to
make it pG 13 but never rated R until the happening but that's another nother
episode for another day. But um, he he went he made sure he wanted to make
movies for families, but well and scary.
JD 18:32
I don't
I don't necessarily mean even just like the entertainment value. I mean, like,
even just like the filming
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18:39
Yeah,
it's it's very, he's he's a big Coppola fan. Whereas
JD 18:44
the
gritty vibe that coke gives. Yes, it's a much cleaner. It's a much like
smoother, I would say and that's not necessarily a bad thing for coke style.
The Ghost
18:55
It's
because Shyamalan likes a lot of long takes man and the sixth sense has a lot
of long takes unbreakable has even more but six cents that's that's where these
the differences between these two boobies Shamil on loves long takes well to
hold us very
JD 19:10
long to
tell us more about the long takes like like, like when you say a long take,
like talk to everyone at home? What does that constitute? usually like, what's
the what's the average for that?
The Ghost
19:21
out? The
way that I can explain it is to bring up a scene from the sixth sense when I'm
going along. Take if you seen the movie, the particular scene where Bruce
Willis comes in, is sitting with the mother, the boy comes into the door and
the mother leaves that conversation and it's a conversation between Cole and
and Malcolm. Right. And there's two particular camera angles that Shamil on
uses that utilize the long take. It's the wide shot from the front of the child
and he keeps moving slowly forward. As he's answering the questions. The camera
never cuts. It just continuously moves. forward.
JD 20:00
So just
like in the scene in Pulp Fiction when they're walking through the hotel it
The Ghost
20:04
never
breaks. That is a long take but it's a steady cam take it's been walking
through the through the hallway. This is just
JD 20:11
a what
is that still still cam you're the behind the scenes guy. I don't know that
shit.
The Ghost
20:16
Well,
this is a why it's a wide angle shot. But it's it's it's not a steady cam, it's
on a crane. It's a crane shot where it's moving slowly forward. It's just not a
crane shot from a bird's eye view. It's a crane shot more from a linear view
from an eye view from us. Right right now, and that's the way it's moving
forward. So that is a long take. But the the pulp fiction was a good, that's a
good example as well. That's also
JD 20:40
because
it's a very famous one, correct?
The Ghost
20:43
Yeah.
Yeah. Alright, so
JD 20:45
So okay,
so you got two very different styles. So now we know who's at the helm. So Sham
along with an original idea and cope with based on a book from another mind.
But still, it's still good execution and written for the screen by cope. So
right. Alright, so So I would say very different styles. So let's talk about what's
similar. So tell us from a story point of view, what's similar about the two
films
The Ghost
21:15
if you
want, let's let's look at some of the actual similarities that people might
have missed in these two movies that actually I fucking missed, until I
researched that. And I'm like, Oh, my God, they really do utilize this. And I
never even knew it. There's actually a lot of similarities in this movie. The
one particular one that a lot of people probably missed is the use of the color
red,
JD 21:39
I was
actually going to bring that up. That was that was very noticeable. And I'll
tell you what, as we were watching it, I pointed it out to my wife, and she
hadn't caught on until then. And then it was all she could see. And now she
can, that's all she could see. Right?
The Ghost
21:54
Because
once you see it, it stands out very hardcore. But they did it so well that you
won't even notice it. Unless you have to let me You have to really, really,
truly pay attention, especially in stir of echoes,
JD 22:10
agree,
but there was a lot of good ones there. And a lot of ones that I noticed like
there was one that I noticed in particular where there was a couple of red
books, you know, near near the end, where he was trying to undo the hypnosis.
And yes, there was a couple of red books just hanging out.
The Ghost
22:24
Yep,
Andy filter where when he comes into the room and where the ghost would be
instead of echoes, filter all over the screen. I don't know why the director
chose to do that. But that's what he wanted to do.
JD 22:37
This was
what he was seeing
The Ghost
22:38
that
it's this loud noise that pops out of nowhere in this red screen, this filter,
red filter pops out of nowhere. That's the way they did it instead of echos
Sixth Sense. Much more subtle.
JD 22:50
Throughout
your throughout that scene. There's so many examples of like, and like you feel
his panic. And like all of a sudden you're seeing red, red, red, and he's like
panic, panic, panic. And like, it's, you definitely are like, Oh my god,
something is fucking wrong.
The Ghost
23:07
Something's
definitely wrong. And they utilize it really well. I mean, that color is so
subtle. They did you know this. There's also another color that's used in stir
of echoes that's actually not used in sixth sense. Which one? The faded blue?
JD 23:22
Really?
The Ghost
23:23
Do you
remember scenes where out of nowhere, it's this filter comes in and it's faded
blue, and it's always blue. If someone's wearing something blue, something
bad's gonna happen.
JD 23:36
I might
have missed that. I'm gonna have to watch it again, look for that.
The Ghost
23:39
Now that
you know that when you go and rewatch the rove echoes, you will see what I'm
talking about.
JD 23:45
I wonder
if we can find I wonder if we can find any clips from the movie that show that
on YouTube? Maybe that we could put on the on the page? We could? Yeah.
The Ghost
23:54
Do you
remember the scene where Kevin Bacon sleeping in the bed? It's the first night
he got hypnotized. Right? That whole night scene? The one where
JD 24:03
you're
right it was Yeah, she was wearing blue. There was she was wearing
The Ghost
24:06
blue.
Yeah, their sheet was blue. The whole room was basically blue.
JD 24:12
Yeah, in
a sense. So dark, very dark blue.
The Ghost
24:16
That is
the similarities between these two movies that I thought was utilized. A just
incredibly dude. Because Yeah, every anytime you see the color red in any of
these in both of these movies, something shitty is about to go down. Something
bad happened, or something bad's about to happen. Right.
JD 24:35
Well,
like you said, it's used a lot more subtly in sixth sense. It is. The balloon
is is one that stands out, right. His sweater, the tent
The Ghost
24:48
of the
doorknob on the on the closet. Yeah, the red shirt that he's wearing. And
everything that he touches, by the way in the sixth sense. Anything that he
touched the night before he died is always still with him like the sweater and
the shirt that he was wearing. It's crazy the way he did that interesting.
Okay. Yeah. So there's there's a lot of similarities in this movie. But this is
a particular one that stood out. Besides the genre, indie director, writer
team. This is a big one that's similar that a lot of people missed.
JD 25:24
Well,
let's look at another similarity. The the fact that both seem to have a young
girl spirit reached out to them in some way.
The Ghost
25:34
Oh my
god, I never realized that. Holy fuck, you're right, there is a female, go.
young female ghost that is asking for help. Who's afraid
JD 25:46
to be a
victim kicked the fuck out? You
The Ghost
25:48
just
blew my mind twice. I never realized
JD 25:50
that. So
basically, that was also something else. Like if you actually look at this. So
where the end route for both of these movies was the exact same thing. Now
everybody focuses on the twist, everybody focused on the twist. But if you're
actually following, not necessarily Malcolm story, but if you're following if
you're following Cole story, more than Malcolm story, because, okay, that's
what happens. And that's one of the reasons that I think that that I think
Sixth Sense, obviously, because the twist like it's all everybody remembers.
But if you follow the boy's story, right, see exact same thing as Kevin Bacon
story. They were both being contacted by the other side in some way.
Interesting. And they were both put in positions to help a victim and get
someone justice because that Okay, now this would this would this would suggest
that both directors respect the general consensus when it comes to the idea of
ghosts and things like, right, and that if you have unfinished business, you
can't move on. You can't move to the next dimension or the right plane or
whatever that may be. Right. So both of them being murder victims, really,
right. You know, there'll be unfinished business with that they would want
justice. They would want you know, the people that that deserve to pay to pay.
So both actually head in that direction.
The Ghost
27:25
They
totally fucking do, dude, and I kind of missed it. But now when you're talking
about and I'm picturing it, I'm like, man, yeah, Cole's story. And Kevin Bacon
story is almost almost a fucking identical dude. Yeah, yeah.
JD 27:41
Now
let's talk about differences though. Because same story, but very different
approaches.
The Ghost
27:49
Oh, my
God. I mean, completely different approach in one is gory,
JD 27:55
very,
and one has no, I don't know. I don't know there's there's a decent amount of
blood. In sixth sense. You just kind of kind of got to kind of look for it. The
one where the kid walks out and some like, Hey, I remember dad's gun as he
turns around, and his head's fucking blown out.
The Ghost
28:11
Yeah,
yeah, those are but they're so subtle. Like when Malcolm at the end you see
when he turns around is a big black blood. Big Red. Oh my god, I can't speak
when you see Malcolm turn around at the end, you see his there's a lot of blood
on his back. Yeah, but it's it's not like the stir of echoes. I mean, he pulls
a fucking tooth out Kevin Bacon posing tooth out in this is
JD 28:38
definitely
okay. So stir of echoes. Okay, so talking about differences then Okay, so I
think kind of going back to what we were talking about earlier of the clean
versus the gritty part of the presentation of how we reach everything and how
we get there because you know, it no matter what, you have to go through a
bunch of creepy shit. Yeah, I'm gonna throw a bunch. You know, like, you got a
kid you got an adult? I don't know who's even equipped to handle it better. I
mean, it's not like like the grown man. It's not like he can do anything any
better. It's like it's still right but the tooth like you were saying. visceral
you feel you're thinking about that shit. Right now. You're getting sued the
pains for that shit right now. So we're all of you, everyone. Check your teeth
right now. Just touch your fucking front tooth. It fucking hurts done and
The Ghost
29:24
that's
not even the worst part. Dude. I mean, literally the worst part is the nails
with the fucking nail. I'm not.
JD 29:32
You're
not one that is. Oh my god. Dude. That is horrific.
The Ghost
29:36
Y'all
have not seen sterile echoes man. There's a scene in there where nails literally
pop off your finger. And I'm like, because
JD 29:42
because
she was struggling so hard to get a grip on something that she asked down so
hard that the index finger nails snapped off
The Ghost
29:52
completely.
Even my wife was like, Fuck, I hate that scene. I'm like, oh God.
JD 29:57
It's on
par with the Achilles tendon scene in hospital. It's up that
The Ghost
30:01
Yes.
That that level.
JD 30:04
Is there
any other movie references we can make to make everyone at home uncomfortable
right now? Oh, that movie make them die slowly where they took the chick. And
they hung her with meat hooks in her breasts and hung her until she died.
The Ghost
30:18
There
you go, ladies, gentlemen. I don't know how much more detail you have it up,
man.
JD 30:24
How much
more fucked up movie scenes Can we? Can we fit it in this to make everyone feel
uncomfortable?
The Ghost
30:29
Dude,
that's really the diff the differences here the difference between the gourd
they both have Gore, just six cents is much cleaner. It's much more artistic.
This one not saying that it's not artistic. It's just no
JD 30:43
to me.
Well, and that's going back to like the word the word I keep going to is clean.
It's just like it's Yeah, visceral versus clean. Correct. But that's not the
only difference. I mean, what else we got? We've got you know, we've got the
the supporting lead characters. You know, you've got Cole's mom. Right. You got
Tom and his wife Maggie. I think Maggie does hold it together pretty well,
because she does.
The Ghost
31:09
She does
a she a better mom per se in this movie than the actual mother that is
struggling with her child secret illness. I don't know man, this woman Believe
it or not the woman, Toni Collette in
JD 31:23
36 cents
tastic.
The Ghost
31:25
You
know, she's an Australian actress.
JD 31:28
I did
not know she was I didn't know she was Australian. Dude. I think she's awesome.
And like she's on that one show United States of Tara. Did you ever seen that
show?
The Ghost
31:35
I have
not.
JD 31:36
Okay, so
real quick, and then we'll get back off of this. But she plays person that has
multiple personalities. Very nice. So like she'll literally just change into
different characters. One of them is a redneck named buck. So Tony Coelho just
put on like redneck gear and just start smoking and chewing tobacco. My name is
book.
The Ghost
31:57
Your
name is buck.
32:00
Right.
The Ghost
32:02
And you
came here to fuck? Right? Fuck.
JD 32:10
She is a
much more you know, under believe idrus I believe in Yeah, she believes she's
she is a fantastic actress. She did great in this honestly. I thought she
looked pretty good in this one.
The Ghost
32:21
Dude,
she did dude. She fucking killed that Philly accent. Look. I'm not mad. I'm not
mad. Dude, that is so Philly. Like, how does this woman have an Australian
accent? Kill it like she's been living in Philly for 50 years.
JD 32:36
Well,
you're right there. So actually that like, like I said about accents. I mean, you're
absolutely right. She pulled off that accent. I think better than Bruce Willis
pulled off a Philadelphia accent.
The Ghost
32:48
Yes, I
will agree with you there. Yeah, yeah, she killed the better. She has a better
Philly accent than Bruce Willis.
JD 32:54
Yeah.
And so that's for sure. I mean, I feel like that's got to give an extra point
to serve echoes for the main character for the main lead for that one. That's
just my thought on.
The Ghost
33:03
possibilities,
possibilities. Honestly, the The main difference here is the tonal difference
men, they I mean, they're both psychological thrillers, but my God, one is so
hard. And the other one is way more drama than harm. And so well,
JD 33:19
I mean,
that's true, too. I mean, like, I guess it's just like, what's your cup of tea
during that moment? Really?
The Ghost
33:24
You know
what I mean? Right? Right. It's, it's really, what are you feeling? Do you want
a horror movie with a little more family? aspects? Or do you want a horror
movie with still family aspects, but gorier?
JD 33:35
Well, I
mean, not only that, but I mean, I guess you gotta you gotta say, you know,
what? What do you like better in execution? The child who's seeing the creepy
visions? Or the guy who's being driven to absolute insanity,
The Ghost
33:50
but
you're going just with story, I'm talking about Yuma, you have to be in the
mood of these. You have to be in the mood for which tone do you want? Right.
They're both psychological thrillers, but totally, completely different.
Completely. I didn't feel the same. In the sixth sense. When I watched it. Then
when I watched stir of echoes, I felt different. Still on the edge of my seat
on both of them, but much different.
JD 34:18
I would
say more more on the edge of my seat with Sarab echoes personally,
The Ghost
34:23
because
the sixth sense is more drama based because he took Shamil on took out a lot of
shit. And I mean, there's a part in the movie in the deleted scenes where he
helps an old man with his wife and the old man doesn't even know the wife's
dead. And it's this whole big backstory that he took out where it's more. This
child really knows what he's what he's doing. He's, he's he's trying to help
these ghosts. It's more family drama. Right? You know what I mean? More into
dramas, there's really not much drama in strobe echoes, subtly, but not more.
JD 34:56
That's
true. That's true. Much more thriller. Well, you know, you talk about that.
Concept a little bit like it is something that Sixth Sense did that a little
bit that sir did not do the concept of not knowing if you're dead?
The Ghost
35:09
Yes,
yeah, yes that I mean that was done if you knew this shit at the end there's no
fucking way. I mean well I mean,
JD 35:19
I'm just
saying like like even the concept on a philosophical scale you know is a very
interesting concept to even consider it is it is done a few times on film right
i mean Carnival of Souls did it outstandingly
The Ghost
35:32
well
elaborate on Carnival of Souls.
JD 35:35
Well,
it's the same thing. It's, you know, it's it's things started happening kind of
strange. It's a woman who is I don't even know the full story, but she's going
somewhere. And she winds up in this strange place. And it almost has like,
almost gives you a little bit of a Hotel California vibe, not the song with the
vibe right song.
The Ghost
35:53
And this
is Twilight right?
JD 35:55
Now. I
don't know, this is a Carnival of Souls.
The Ghost
35:59
Yeah,
and it's a
JD 36:00
that's a
movie that came out in the 60s. It's, it's kind of kind of some and basically,
it leads up to a twist. She you know, she can't use various senses of dread and
write various, you know, like, scary premonitions and weird visions and a
creepy dude's face. He's popping in your fucking head. And then she finds out
she died in a car accident on the way to where she was going. So it's it's not
really a new concept, but it was very well done.
The Ghost
36:30
It was
it was done very well. It's it's taken something that yes, was done before. But
I think he just took that that particular style or that particular little hump
in the story and just perfected it. He just made it better. He he I mean, he
wrote this shit. 20 times. This wasn't a one draft thing. This was 20 drafts,
JD 36:52
right?
Well, here's something here's something different. I mean, here's here's a,
when you talk about execution, so let's talk about execution. In this
particular case, for this particular thing, you know, we're not versus Carnival
souls on this one, but like, I will give props where props are due. Right? When
you know, the twist. And at this point, everybody does. Going through and
watching the movie, knowing that twist knowing them was dead the whole time.
Right? It's kind of it's kind of fun. It's kind of fun if you try to spot
problems in the story. Now, Carnival souls, she was dead the whole time.
The Ghost
37:26
Yeah,
JD 37:26
but she
was also talking to like every motherfucker around so like, it was almost like
they ended it. Maybe it was like, maybe there's more to it. Maybe it was like
she was between who fucking knows who fucking is maybe she was. But right. But
there there's not a single moment that it slips up. Now I wonder how the fuck
he was going to work? How it was getting appointments.
The Ghost
37:48
That's
the thing. How did he know to go see Cole? When he died? I think he just this
is where and I know it says one year later. I don't think that's how that is.
Yeah. I actually think that that's literally the next day. And he just starts
his day as normal. Well, hold on.
JD 38:09
What are
they celebrating their anniversary?
The Ghost
38:12
That
night? Yeah, the night he died. And
JD 38:14
so that
it would have been a year later. Because remember, they were supposed to be for
their anniversary when she was at the restaurant. So it was a year later.
The Ghost
38:23
Hold on
a minute. I don't know if it was if they they said a year that it was a year
later. The scene doesn't go straight to that. It's that's a couple of scenes
later. Now. I don't know how many is that the same day? I don't think it
JD 38:36
is one
or maybe not the same day, but it will be the same timeframe. It would be not
necessarily a full year later, but it would be like it that's actually I think
it just says the next fall.
The Ghost
38:49
Actually,
you know what? That's I think that's what it said next fall? Yes. So
JD 38:52
then
theoretically, it'd be like the same thing now is like if I said the next
spring, like meaning spring 2022. That could be a couple days from now, it
could be a couple days before, you know right around this time. So I think it
was a year later, but maybe not the same day. So how did he How did he How did
he know to go see Cole?
The Ghost
39:14
The way
they explained it? And it's not really explained? Is that the man now that
killed him the man that shot him his first patient, which is an adult now?
Right? I think when he killed him it was done cheaper by Donnie Wahlberg, by
the way. Yeah, right. killed it. By the way. He randomly went down. Right? He
lost like 90 pounds for this movie. It's insane. Yeah. But I think that when
Malcolm died, and as he was dying, he was killed by the person that he thought
he didn't fail, but he failed him. So when he as he's dying, and you die in
such a unnatural way,
JD 39:58
right?
time I unfun business like we said earlier,
The Ghost
40:01
correct.
That's what I think is happening when when you restart. It's just it's like the
ectoplasm on top of timeline and he's like above on top of the ectoplasm.
Alright, you
JD 40:15
know
what I'm gonna I'm gonna fuck with you here. I bet I've got an even better I've
got another theory here. Okay, I'm gonna fuck with here. Okay, so the ghosts go
to coal to seek help, right? Right. But they don't necessarily know that
they're even dead so they don't know that they're seeking help.
The Ghost
40:36
They
don't know that they're right. They're just doing they're just doing what what
they feel they need to do
JD 40:44
so then
okay so his unfinished business is clearly to save some kid his unfinished
business is to literally redeem what he thought redeem redeem his failure as
correct which you know what, let's be honest, in that particular situation he
could be I mean, the dude killed him and then killed himself he did not succeed
it is what it is. Maybe not his fault not blaming him, but it is what it is.
Right? So is it possible that in his mind, because like, okay, clearly like,
the spirits are protected by some kind of like knowledge, like they're
protected by light, they're they're given, there's some kind of knowledge
barrier. So something would have to make the conveniences happen. Like it would
have to be like, Oh, this is like your friend like okay for the little girl
that was like the little girl that was trying to about the poisoning
The Ghost
41:41
correct?
JD 41:42
She
would probably think oh, this is like just a friend of mine. This is a friend
of mine that I've known for a while that I so like there's some like mental
gymnastics the spirit world does to make that convenience connection. What of
his? Is it he had the appointment with him? Because this was a troubled kid.
The Ghost
41:59
I mean,
that's that's a high probability. And I just realized that this shit is like
similar to stir of echoes, stir of echoes, same thing. The girl comes to him
comes to the child, that child Yeah,
JD 42:11
yeah. So
so so let's talk about that. So okay, so the child has connection. And that's
where the connection starts.
The Ghost
42:19
Right?
Both children into movies both have connection are
JD 42:23
the
catalysts here direct the differences and I would actually say this this is
this is pretty interesting, because like cold calls dad doesn't really come up
does he? Very, very subtly, he's never mentioned you seem in a picture, you
know, that he works in, in a doesn't even matter. We don't? We don't know much
about him.
The Ghost
42:41
Yeah,
you don't you don't know much about him. You see him a little bit, you hear a
backstory, and that's it.
JD 42:46
Alright,
so check this out. So let's, let's consider another potential similarity here.
So we know the kid from stir of echoes, we know, his father does have a
connection. But it took a particular event to unlock it. So okay, so what if
it's like, okay, so like, you know, the the the thought that like, like an
innocent child, a young child or a cat or a dog, they can see they're more
attuned to the spirit world, so they're more able to connect to it. Right? Is
it possible that like, his family has some kind of because clearly, there's
others like it, like, like, Neil was at a club of people who experienced this
shit. Yeah. Is it? Is it possible that like, you have it in childhood. And it
starts to fade into adulthood, and there's ways to unlock it. And it got
unlocked for Tom.
The Ghost
43:45
Interesting.
That's amazing. Actually.
JD 43:49
laid the
genealogy lately is Cole's father, does he have that potential inside him to
connect to the spirit world?
The Ghost
43:55
That's
crazy. That's a question that I would like answered. But no, they never
mentioned that in sixth sense. But I like the way you just dug into that nice.
Yeah, like so.
JD 44:04
Yeah, we
don't know. We don't know. But that is a possible thought process on that. Now
that we got that, do
The Ghost
44:11
you want
to go straight in a box office in critical reception?
JD 44:14
Alright.
So I mean, we almost don't have to, we know exactly who won this particular
round. But go ahead, take us into the box office. Let's hear how both did?
The Ghost
44:24
Well.
This is as much as we've even told each other box office should not determine
how good a movie is.
JD 44:33
However,
it is a factor in this case. It
The Ghost
44:36
has a
huge, huge factor. I mean, both came out in 99 stir of echoes had a budget of
$12 million, while the Sixth Sense had a $40 million budget.
JD 44:49
So even
more in sixth sense for sure.
The Ghost
44:52
They did
they did if you look at it in that way. They believe in it and this was an NIH
champions first major production Movie big production movie.
JD 45:02
Alright,
so so for a young director in Hollywood 1999, you would probably be able to
ballpark this way more than I could. For a for that level director, unproven,
mostly untested. What's the average kind of gig he could get for something like
that 40 million seems like a pretty tall order for that immensely.
The Ghost
45:21
I mean,
not only did they give him a budget of 40 million, they paid him 2.5 million
for the Sixth Sense rights. But he said you can have them as long as I can
direct produce and do everything for what he didn't produce this but direct and
write and do everything for it the way I envisioned it, and then I go ahead,
yeah, please do. Here's $40 million, do what you need to do. And so that I got
a pitch meeting. My God did it prevail, because the six cents with a $40
million budget opened at 26 point 6 million that weekend. It actually made more
money on Sunday. And that Saturday,
JD 45:59
probably
people go and see it again. Word of mouth, word of mouth men.
The Ghost
46:03
So the
six cents had word of mouth. Not saying that stir of echoes was bad, is just
when you look at it, the domestic opening for stir of echoes was 5.8 million.
So
JD 46:18
it's
like talking like 20 million difference.
The Ghost
46:22
Do you
want my honest opinion on why I believe that this movie flopped when these both
came out? Because six cents did not flop in theaters at all?
JD 46:30
I would
say my opinion would be definitely that. That the twist? kept it going? It hit
harder hit at the wrong time.
The Ghost
46:39
but hear
me out 26 million opening for this six cents 5.8 for stir of echoes right. six
cents worldwide made $672 million, while stir of echoes only made 21 million
and made its money back. But why serve echoes didn't even make the budget of
six cents. It didn't even make it disturb echoes made worldwide. less money
than six cents made in three days. Huh? Yeah. Here's my theory. I believe the
trailer for serve echoes. And the sixth sense is the reason why these two
movies is so immensely different when it comes to the box office. Right?
Because you made me watch both of those.
JD 47:29
I did. I
thought that was an X Factor we needed to talk about for sure.
The Ghost
47:32
Yes,
yes. And I believe the six inch trailers a billion times better. I don't like
painted black music behind it. I just it this is a horror movie a horror movie.
Why is why are the Rolling Stones playing in a gory horror movie? I did not
like that at all. You know, do
JD 47:50
you
realize like, you know that song is about?
The Ghost
47:53
I
understand. Yes, I that's fine. The meaning behind the song. The placement of
the song is potentially fine. I'm not saying anything is wrong with it. I
thought just I actually lose people. I
JD 48:05
thought
this I thought the serve echoes. No, no, I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell
you exactly what it is. There was one thing and one thing alone because here's
the thing. Nobody remembers that trailer except for the one thing which one
The Ghost
48:21
I mean,
yeah.
JD 48:22
That
Yeah, that was that's what it was that caught on that was the main thing.
The Ghost
48:27
But it's
zero.
JD 48:29
here's
the here's the if you took that part out I think sir Becker's would have would
have done a little bit better. I think servicos would have been a little bit
more well known. Because here's the thing you you didn't like the the painted
black theme but like what that symbolizes because painted black is like a very
dark song.
The Ghost
48:45
It's
it's it is and I love the song dude.
JD 48:48
Yeah, I
do. I think it was used outstandingly and we got Kevin Bacon going crazy.
Right. But that one line?
The Ghost
48:56
I just
JD 48:57
think
right I just think the way trainers and that's the thing is that thing, it
became a cultural phenomenon.
The Ghost
49:03
It
absolutely is. It's an absolute cultural phenomenon. It's not these two
shouldn't even be in the same fucking category because the other one
annihilated this one completely annihilated on a better level. You're
JD 49:14
absolutely
right, Ryan like right. It's It's a shame because like, I think that's why it's
definitely one of the reasons that went under my radar.
The Ghost
49:22
right a
lot and a lot of people's radar man, you're not the only one to six cents
really overpowered this movie. 99
JD 49:29
it
overpowered a lot of 99 like just the year 1999 I mean, there was like
Superbowl ads for it there was there were spoofs in movies. I mean, they did
what was in the one movie. They did the ice white people like they kept right.
It'd be a scary movie. Yeah, it became such a such a thing. I mean, like, it
sort of echoes didn't have that.
The Ghost
49:49
Yeah.
It's it was just he got lucky with that line. And I just think it was executed
better.
JD 49:55
It was
executed. Well.
The Ghost
49:57
Yeah.
The trail
JD 49:58
was
executed what they were going for. I see what they're going for with the
trailer.
The Ghost
50:03
I just
think you have James Newton Howard in both movies legendary fuckin composer you
have late James Newton Howard and you don't use James Newton Howard and stir of
echoes Come on guys come on in your trailer you use James Newton Howard music
just like they did in the sixth sense.
JD 50:21
Well, I
mean you could also argue that the Rolling Stones have sold more albums than
James Newton Howard. I look listen
The Ghost
50:29
against
the Rolling Stones painted black is a fantastic song. I just felt like why I
mean it's just a horror movie. I don't want to listen to the Rolling Stones. I
want to watch a movie
JD 50:41
right
but like what what it was symbolizing was like okay like that song has been
linked to the idea of going crazy that songwriting to the idea of murder that
song has been linked to the devil. And that's
The Ghost
50:55
and
that's fine, man. There's a music video.
JD 50:58
There's
a lot of implications with that song and I actually I disagree with you. I
actually think it was I think it was a good choice.
The Ghost
51:06
There
you go. I don't know what to tell you. I just I just think it doesn't work with
a fucking horse. It doesn't white with a horror movie.
JD 51:13
I
disagree worked with. It worked very well in Ed daddy. why it works with
devils. Did it or did it not work with devil's advocate?
The Ghost
51:25
It
doesn't why it was like
JD 51:30
this
here. Okay. This is one okay. This needs to go up as a poll. I'm going to
figure out how to do the fucking polls on Instagram and I'm gonna we're gonna
let the weirdos at home decide because that's fine. I you know, I think you're
I think you're incorrect, sir. That's fine.
The Ghost
51:45
Hey, at
least the point goes to six cents because it killed it at the box office.
JD 51:52
Well,
and you know, here's the thing is like that is such that is a large factor.
The Ghost
51:58
It is it
is. I mean, dude in the movie almost made a billion dollars on its own. Come
on. Yeah. On a 40 million on a $40 million budget. This shit made $672 million.
Dude. Oh my god.
JD 52:13
I'm
ready to declare a winner. And now the egocentric opinions of your illustrious
hosts
The Ghost
52:23
because
it's our show Bucky.
JD 52:27
Alright,
so some final thoughts. You know, here's here's where it says i think i think
Sarah Becker's didn't get a fair shake. I think it was I think it happened to
hit when the next big thing was coming out and it got steamrolled. And I think
if it had come out on a on a different occasion, a different year. I think it
would have been a massive, massive, massive hit.
The Ghost
52:50
You
know, my father in law would completely agree with you. He thinks that the
Sixth Sense overpowered this movie. It wasn't a radar because it is Sixth
Sense. And I get it six senses better on every conceivable level. Story,
execution scares, acting everything, everything it beats it on every single
level. The only thing that I like in the stir and stir of echoes is the main
actor and I think Kevin Bacon's a better person to Bruce Willis. And that's it.
Ah,
JD 53:23
here's
something else actually. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a
little bit of a curveball opinion here I don't think you saw this coming but I
picked up on this I think stir of echoes is a little bit more progressive for
its time
The Ghost
53:40
was when
you think about it, it was a couple
JD 53:43
different
couple different things that I picked up so this so this is gonna be some
points for it. I know who wins but we all know who won this one. But I think
some points for it. There's a word that I'm not going to repeat. I don't care
for it begins with an R I think you guys all know what it is. I don't care for
that word. But there was a moment where a guy kept using it one of the
characters actually corrected This is 1999 I do like that the Hey, hey, don't
use that fucking word. Don't use a fucking word. It's Oh, it's fucking rude.
Don't use a fucking word. Now here's another thing is as far as progressive
goes, we're going to talk about like the the different. The different ghosts.
You've got the ghosts being poisoned by our mother. So that's a very old fact.
That's a very old school kind of approach if you're actually To be honest,
because like the like the mother who wants to make sure that her her kid stays
sick and wants to make sure it yeah, that that's that's an older thing. You
don't hear about that as much anymore. Right But you're talking about 1999
you're talking about like the gist of the story was like some dudes who Yeah,
what was that Brock Turner the the guy the the guy that raped the girl behind
the dumpster.
The Ghost
54:54
Was that
his name? Brock something rock something I know what you're talking about Brock
JD 54:58
something
but anyway like, it's a Same idea it was the same concept of like, well he's
got his whole future ahead of him that was their whole thing is like we're
going to cover this up because of that, but the story is going to go in a way
that they're not going to get away with it they're gonna be brought to justice
and I think in 1999 moving into today's climate, I mean, I don't like to
compare movies to today's climate you know how I feel about that like there's a
lot of problems with like a lot. There's a lot of problem like we watch Revenge
of the Nerds the other day holding there is an episode that we got to do on
that at some point about how much like like, compared to the way people view
things now and that's I I'm okay with that. I just don't i don't want to I
don't like to judge movies. But taking that attitude into it comparing it today
It holds up pretty well as far as like what the general idea was with that it
was trying to get justice for a girl who had been sexually assaulted and
murdered and there the the the murderers were being protected because their
futures were online.
The Ghost
56:01
It is
definitely more modern. Right It is it definitely more modern, but you got to
still remember that people have poisoned people for decades. poisoning is just
something that people think you're not wrong. You're not think you can get away
with it. But
JD 56:14
she
would have got away with it too. If it hadn't been for the island kid. Right?
Well,
The Ghost
56:19
dead
friend.
JD 56:22
Adventures
of psychic void is ghost pal.
The Ghost
56:26
psychic
boy and his ghost. Alright,
JD 56:28
do you
have any final opinions add to this? Just way one way or another?
The Ghost
56:32
You can
have both of these movies were executed totally differently. I'm just looking
at movie. Where did I have most fun? What did I enjoy the most? Which one kept
my attention the most? Which both did I'm not gonna lie. They both kept my
attention. They're great movies. I'm just going by it's an personal opinion
when it comes What do you actually like when you look at these ladies and
gentlemen, you have to ask yourself What do you like? Do you like the more gory
upbeat gritty horror thriller psychological horror thriller? Or do you like the
more drama slow paced? Very dark deep, brutal, dark and brutal over? So yeah,
get right but dark and brutal storyline that's not really dark and brutal when
it comes. It's just a layer it's it's done really? Well, you have to just you
have to pick and choose which one you like. And I like the subtle, slow burn
horror. I've always liked that. movies that I generally like, are like this.
Most movies are like this that I like when it comes to horror. I would more
lean more towards the psychological when it comes to slow burn like the
machinist or the uninvited that's a good one. That's so those are all kind of
slow burn horror thrillers. Stir of echoes is more upbeat. It's a much more
upbeat character. These are more subtle characters and that's the that's what I
like I
JD 58:07
think I
resonate more with the sturb echo side my point my my vote would go to that but
I can't ignore I can't ignore the culture impact I think we have to declare a
winner and I think the winner is definitely six cents on this one apps cultural
impact. Financial obviously I mean that's not the only factor but it's it is a
factor I mean, like the Starbucks has didn't even make back the budget that was
given to six cents and right it overpowered it and you know what? I? I'm not
necessarily surprised but declaring the very first winner of our vs series. six
cents.
The Ghost
58:48
The six
cents couldn't be
JD 58:50
a
fucking m nice Sham alone.
The Ghost
58:52
And let
me tell you something weirdos. I couldn't be more fuckin happy dude. I love it.
I love it rigged.
JD 58:57
Game is
not rigged. It is just I'm sorry. It is what it is. But yes, the winner of this
episode of stirring up the senses is the sixth sense. Now I do want to I want
to see what I want to see how that compares at home. So we are gonna have a
poll. We're gonna put that on Instagram when this episode airs. Look for that.
Around 6pm that night I'm just ballparking here. We're gonna have that poll up.
I want to know what you weirdos think the official decision is the six cents
but let's see if it gets over two. So this has been our first versus episode. I
don't think anyone at home of surprise follow the show at all. You know the
ghost is obsessed with M Night Shyamalan. Not surprising The Sixth Sense one.
But as much as I likes to Rebecca's can argue with this one. So in order to try
to get some points or serve echoes on this one, just wasn't in the cards, but
we'll see if you guys overturn that. So I'm interested to see how that goes.
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The Ghost
1:00:34
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The Ghost
1:02:15
it's
over.
1:02:18
Go home.
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